s2e34 Mosab Abu Toha, Doug Tallamy, The Future for Small Presses
Featuring Eileen Tabios, Diane Goettel, Kate McMullen and Annie Groover, a preview of our interveiw with Sherrie Flick and poetry by Martha Cinader
SHOW NOTES
s2e34
October 31, 2024
Poet, Mosab Abu Toha, reads “Under the Rubble” from Forest of Noise. Professor Doug Tallamy talks about Living with Oaks. Part 3 of the SPD roundtable features Eileen Tabios, Diane Goettel, Kate McMullen and Annie Groover. Sherrie Flick defines Rust Belt Feminism. Martha shares a garden poem.
HOST: Martha Cinader. FEATURED POET: Mosab Abu Toha. His reading was part of a Democracy Now! Web Exclusive video interview by Amy Goodman. GUESTS: Doug Tallamy, Eileen Tabios, Diane Goettel, Kate McMullen, Annie Groover, Jose Luis Alderete, Sherrie Flick. ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: DJ Jeannie Hopper. EDITING: Jeremiah Cothren. MUSIC: Jay Rodriguez Sierra. Banned Book Theme by DJ Jeannie Hopper with the voice and words of Yvette Murray.
FEATURED SPOKEN WORD
Mosab Abu Toha
“Under the Rubble”
Forest of Noise, Poems
by Mosab Abu Toha
Published by Knopf
A live reading that was part of a Democracy Now Web Exclusive video interview by Amy Goodman on October 25, 2024.
Watch at Democracy Now

GUESTS
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Doug Tallamy – Author, Professor of Agriculture
Read more: Doug Tallamy – Author, Professor of AgricultureDoug Tallamy is the T. A. Baker Professor of Agriculture in the Department of Entomology and Wildlife Ecology at the University of Delaware, where he has authored 112 research publications and has taught insect related courses for 44 years. Chief among his research goals is to better understand the many ways insects interact with plants and how such interactions determine the diversity of animal communities. His books include Bringing Nature Home, The Living Landscape, co-authored with Rick Darke, Nature’s Best Hope, a New York Times Best Seller, The Nature of Oaks, winner of the American Horticultural Society’s 2022 book award. In 2021 he cofounded Homegrown National Park…
Small Press Distribution (SPD) Round table Part 3
Annie Groover, Manager, Hub City Bookshop
Diane Goettel, Black Lawrence Press
Eileen Tabios, Author
Kate McMullen, Managing Editor, Hub City Press
Small Press Distribution, known as SPD, a non -profit book distributor for independent publishers, closed on March 28, 2024 after 55 years in business with over 300 small presses who were using their services. The sudden closure was covered at the time by major news outlets. Some not-for-profits stepped in with assistance to small presses, which are often not-for-profit themselves. The Poetry Foundation established a $150,000 bridge fund to help poetry presses, and New York State Council on the Arts gave grants to 21 presses based in New York State. Some indie presses went to Asterism books for distribution. Now, it’s months later, and we’re checking in with the IndiePress Community.
Listen to Part 1
Listen to Part 2
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Annie Groover
Read more: Annie GrooverAnnie Groover last worked at the Spartanburg County Public Libraries helping connect the county with books and resources. She is also a board member and Treasurer for the Adult Learning Center, which assists the undereducated of Spartanburg gain credentials for better jobs and lives. In this new endeavor as Bookshop Manager, she hopes to continue…
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Diane Goettel – Black Lawrence Press
Read more: Diane Goettel – Black Lawrence PressDiane Goettel has a BA from Sarah Lawrence College and an MA in English from Brooklyn College. She co-edited the anthologies Feast: Poetry & Recipes for a Full Seating at Dinner and Art & Understanding: Literature from the First Twenty Years of A&U. She lives in Mount Vernon, New York with her husband and daughter.
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Kate Arden McMullen
Read more: Kate Arden McMullenKate McMullen is the Managing Editor of Hub City Press, a nonprofit independent publisher of fiction, poetry, and nonfiction from and about the American South.
NEXT WEEK ON THE LISTEN & BE HEARD HOUR
NOTES ON BANNED BOOKS
FEATURED BOOKS
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Dan Sinykin – Big Fiction
Dan Sinykin – Big Fiction. In the late 1950s, Random House editor Jason Epstein would talk jazz with Ralph Ellison or chat with Andy Warhol while pouring drinks in his office. By the 1970s, editors were poring over profit-and-loss statements. The electronics company RCA bought Random House in 1965, and then other large corporations purchased…
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Douglas W. Tallamy – Bringing Nature Home
As development and habitat destruction accelerate, there are increasing pressures on wildlife populations. In his groundbreaking book Bringing Nature Home, Douglas W. Tallamy reveals the unbreakable link between native plant species and native wildlife—native insects cannot, or will not, eat alien plants. When native plants disappear, the insects disappear, impoverishing the food source for birds and…
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Douglas W. Tallamy – The Nature of Oaks
Oaks sustain a complex and fascinating web of wildlife. The Nature of Oaks reveals what is going on in oak trees month by month, highlighting the seasonal cycles of life, death, and renewal. From woodpeckers who collect and store hundreds of acorns for sustenance to the beauty of jewel caterpillars, Tallamy illuminates and celebrates the wonders that…
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Douglas W. Tallamy – Nature’s Best Hope
In his new book, Tallamy takes the next step and outlines his vision for a grassroots approach to conservation. Nature’s Best Hope shows how homeowners everywhere can turn their yards into conservation corridors that provide wildlife habitats. Because this approach relies on the initiatives of private individuals, it is immune from the whims of government…
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Mosab Abu Toha – Forest of Noise
“A powerful, capacious, and profound” (Ocean Vuong) new collection of poems about life in Gaza by an award-winning Palestinian poet. Barely thirty years old, Mosab Abu Toha was already a well-known poet when the current siege of Gaza began. After the Israeli army bombed and destroyed his house, pulverizing a library he had painstakingly built…
VIDEOS
Poet Mosab Abu Toha
Visit Democracy Now to view Amy Goodman’s interview with Palestinian Poet Mosab Abu Toha as he reads from his new book “Forest of Noise”
Martha Cinader in Conversation with Doug Tallamy
SUBMISSIONS
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